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Fans have been asking Sam to make a fourth Evil Dead film since the release of Army Of Darkness.
Sam, Bruce & Rob are quite frequently quoted on the subject as the
question virtually always comes up in their respective interviews. Many
rumours have come and gone, but currently no official plans or specific
dates have ever been released, and if Sam does decide to go ahead with a
new movie, it isn't entirely clear what form it would take.
This page covers the various prospects
of a new Evil Dead film, and is split in to three sections giving the
three most likely paths a new movie could take; Evil Dead 4 covers a further instalment to the existing Evil Dead series which could be a continuation of the Army Of Darkness storyline, and would be directed by Sam and feature Bruce as Ash, An Evil Dead
Remake covers a complete re-telling of the original film with a new
director & actors and possibly entirely new characters &
plotlines, and Freddy vs Jason vs Ash covers the rumours surrounding that collaboration as a possible sequel to the 2003 Freddy vs Jason movie.
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Because Sam, Bruce & Rob have been asked the
same questions in interviews so many times, many of their answers are
simply reiterated verbatim. Rather than try to include every single
quote on the matter regardless of similarity, I have only selected very
specific quotes that provide a significantly different insight or new
information on the subject.
Evil Dead 4
A fourth instalment to the Evil Dead trilogy (possibly titled Army Of Darkness II) directed by Sam and featuring Bruce in the role as Ash has long been rumoured. Speculation began even while Army Of Darkness
was still in production. Sam was asked about this in an interview for
issue #1 of Killing Moon Magazine, released in September 1991 (page 19);
"AND FINALLY, THE INEVITABLE QUESTION : WILL THERE BE AN 'EVIL DEAD IV'?
Please be seated. I have some bad news.
It is very possible that the main character, Ash, will not survive ARMY
OF DARKNESS. I wish it wasn't so, but he's in a pretty tough jam and it
looks bleak. Let°s hope and pray."
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The issue seems to come up in virtually every
Bruce Campbell interview. He was interviewed at length for Fright X
Magazine, released in February 2000 (pages 80 & 81);
"FXM: What's this 'No EVIL DEAD 4' talk?
BC: It's based on economics. It's got nothing to do with anything else.
FXM: There has to be an EVIL DEAD 4.
BC: No, there doesn't? And for a number
of reasons. First, the more you do, the less precious the other ones
are. It's true, there's nothing wrong with a trilogy. At the end of the
day we're not excited enough to rattle the cages of the executives to
show them how well all the movies have done in video and all the other
markets. You know, and no executive is going to woke up and see that in
'98, the EVIL DEAD re-release on video, got to number three on the video
charts. It was TITANIC, LADY AND THE TRAMP, and EVIL DEAD at one point.
But they're not going to notice that, because that's not how they work.
They've just graduated from high school, most of these current
executives. [laughs] You know, they're worried about whether they can
get their copy of PITFALL 3D or not.
FXM: So there's zero percent chance of this happening?
BC: I would say zero, yeah. I know Sam
is interested, and we've kicked a bunch of ideas around, and we would do
it, but again, none of us would do it for free, we're all going to ask
for a boatload of money, and Sam, he's just directed Kevin Costner! What
does he need this for? A SIMPLE PLAN, and this other thing, FOR THE
LOVE OF THE GAME, he's a big studio director now. It's very hard to say
to him, "Okay Sam, you can't have fourteen weeks to shoot this, you can
only have eight weeks." Well, how exciting is that to him? And you can't
have all these fancy cranes and equipment, and you don't have the big
support team anymore.
FXM: Maybe EVIL DEAD 4 doesn't have to be a huge Hollywood...
BC: Yeah, but this is YOU presuming we're even interested in doing it.
FXM: But you just said you were.
BC: In a casual, conversational sort of
way, but I don't give a rat's ass about those movies one way or the
other."
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During an interview with Toyfare Magazine (issue
#136 - October 2008), Bruce Campbell sounded quite fed up the point
being raised multiple times by the interviewer;
"Look, let's cut to the chase because
you keep dancing around it, if you're talking about Ash coming back
again, Sam Raimi has the best perspective. He says, 'Look, I can go back
and do Ash vs. whoever whenever I want. I can do that when I'm 70; I
don't have to do that now. Right now I'm on a fast, fat groovy rain in
Hollywood.' And he's going to follow that, and he'll come back and to
EVIL DEAD stuff when he's unemployed and living at the Old Director's
Home."
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He elaborated on the point a little further during
an interview with Chris Tilly of IGN on February 6, 2009, while he was
promoting My Name Is Bruce;
"Sam and I love those movies and we owe
everything to them. They are what got us into this business. But Sam has
five kids - he's a family man. And those movies are an absolute
physical pain in the ass to make. So whenever we see each other, it's
not like 'Man, we've got to make another one of those movies.' And I'm
under a five-year contract for a TV show in the States [Burn Notice]
which is doing well and it ain't going to get cancelled in the
foreseeable future. So I have a day job that I can't just walk away
from."
"I wouldn't make it if Sam didn't make
it. I wouldn't do it if Sam didn't direct it - that would be ridiculous.
But here's the real bottom line. We'd work for two years making that
movie, working our asses off, then people would watch it and go 'It's
OK, but not as good as Army of Darkness.' I know it, I just know it.
Because look at Indiana Jones 4 - that movie was forced down people's
throats. That was not brought back by popular demand. That was a couple
of high-powered players going 'Let's try that again.' I took a poll
because I was in 22 States with this movie [My Name is Bruce], and the
Evil Dead 4 question always comes up. And I say 'One, two, three - raise
your hands if you wanted Indiana Jones 4' and two hands would go up in a
300 seat theatre. That's your answer right there."
"But there wasn't supposed to be an Evil
Dead II. Ash is dead at the end of the first one - completely dead. But
our second movie Crimewave bombed, so we went 'Aw crap, we'd better
make another Evil Dead movie.' So that's why it was created. And because
we didn't have the rights to each subsequent movie - because they were
made by different companies - we had to fake these re-caps and use
different actors, and it just confused people. I don't think it was ever
organically meant to be made into three movies anyway. So a fourth one
would just be more confused and ridiculous. It's a little too muddled I
think."
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When interviewed a shot time later by Steve
Heisler for the A/V club on February 11, 2009, Bruce poured more cold
water on even the mere idea of a fourth instalment;
"AVC: In your opinion, is Ash worthy of more movies?
BC: No. I think there should be an end
to everything. I mean, did anyone really want Indiana Jones 4? The
answer is no. I’ve taken a poll in about seven theaters now. Of 300
people, three hands go up. You are bound to disappoint. I would rather
disappoint with a brand new original movie. People worship Army Of
Darkness,and God bless them for it. It’s a beautiful thing. The movie
bombed when it came out, and not many people are aware of that. Twenty
years later, the thing has picked up speed, and it’s on American Movie
Classics now. That was a long time ago, and whatever we do next will
always be compared to Army Of Darkness, and I don’t see how we can win.
You make that movie, and I can tell you the quote right now, “Oh, it’s
not quite as good as Army Of Darkness.” Then we would have gone through
immense physical pain and anguish to bring something out that ultimately
disappointed. That’s really not what I’m into these days."
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Sam on the other hand usually tends to seem
positive about the idea. He was interviewed by Chris Tilly for IGN at
the South by Southwest (SXSW) Film Festival première of Drag Me To Hell on March 15, 2009, and asked about a follow-up to Army Of Darkness;
"I hope to, yes. Every time I say I
would like to [revisit the films], people say, 'where the hell is it!?!'
But I’m just glad people are still interested. But yes, I would really
like to do [another ‘Evil Dead’ film]. I’ve just got a commitment to
make ‘Spider-Man 4’ right now though."
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Sam elaborated further in an interview with the
May 2009 issue of Empire Magazine (page 116), revealing that he had
already started co-writing a script with his brother Ivan, although
they're only up to page nine;
"EMPIRE: Okay, then. I have to ask... Evil Dead IV?
RAIMI: Everyone keeps getting mad at me
because I kept talking about it! But I'd like to write Evil Dead IV with
my brother. Every time we're together, we write another page. We've got
nine pages now.
EMPIRE: Hang on - there are nine pages of Evil Dead IV... here'?
RAIMI: No, it's in Detroit and in my garage!
EMPIRE: Oh. What's in the pages?
RAIMI: There's some dialogue. Ash being
an idiot. Ash taking some abuse. Some character stuff, and then some
structure of Act Two. It's ideas, jokes, things we'd like to see.
EMPIRE: Bruce is now 50. Would he still be playing Ash?
RAIMI: That's the plan. Unless you think I should play the role..."
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One major hurdle to overcome would be
writing the opening scenes. While a little artistic licence was taken
with the continuity between Evil Dead II and Army Of Darkness, many potential viewers may only have seen one of the two diametrically opposed Army Of Darkness alternate endings, making exact continuity between Army Of Darkness and Evil Dead 4
virtually impossible for the entire audience, and worse still, making
the opening scenes completely nonsensical for those who have only seen
the other ending.
Given that Bruce was 34 when starring in Army Of Darkness,
and is over 50 now, the likelihood & plausibility of him reprising
the incredibly physically demanding role of Ash is diminishing as time
passes, but given his outstanding work on Burn Notice is by no
means out of the question. With Sam's current film track record, it
would seem more likely he would take a back seat in a direct remake with
a new up & coming director and no Ash, than to make Evil Dead 4, but neither path is a certainty by any means. Evil Dead 4
seems as far away as it ever was, but as Sam completes his part in the
Spider-Man franchise, he will emerge with the directorial clout,
artistic freedom, and virtually guaranteed financial backing to realise
any idea he desires, which might well include another outing for Bruce
as Ash.
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An Evil Dead Remake
Horror remakes have become flavour of the moment
with many of the major studios churning out title after title; A Nightmare On Elm Street, Dawn Of The Dead, Halloween, The Hills Have Eyes, The Omen, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
to name but a few, each released with varying degrees of success (and
most with further sequels). Many fans automatically leap to the stance
of being precious about original films while being quick to knock
remakes, but it's easy to forget that a number of seminal horror films
of the 70's & 80's were remakes themselves.
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The Thing, The Fly and Invasion of the Body Snatchers
are three excellent examples of remakes which have stood the test of
time. Can the same be said of the more recent batch of remakes? Only
time will tell.
A remake of The Evil Dead was
announced as an upcoming project for Ghost House pictures (Sam &
Rob's production company) a few years back, although Sam said up front
he would not be directing, and Sam, Bruce & Rob would take a back
seat role. The basic tenants of the plot would still stand with a group
of teenagers going to a cabin and finding the Book of the Dead, but
there the similarities would end, maybe without even the character of
Ash, much less starring Bruce as the lead.
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Rob Tapert usually plays things close to the chest
given his normal role as producer, but even so, he has mentioned a
remake in a number of interviews. He spoke to Scott Collura of Now
Playing Magazine back in January 2005;
"Yes [Ash will be re-cast], because it
will be off of the original movie. It's five kids go to a cabin, but
it's not a continuation of the existing Evil Dead backstory. We're
talking to various filmmakers about their possible interest, and it's
still in the germination stage. There are people who we would like to
give a chance to create their own vision as to what Evil Dead is, so
we're kind of hearing what other people's take might be and moving
forward along those lines."
"Just redoing, and using a bad word,
aping the original Evil Dead... there's really no reason to do that,
that movie exists. So it's finding a way to please the people who love
the original, introduce it to a whole new group of people who have never
seen it, and thrill them. And also for Sam and myself and Bruce, to
thrill ourselves with working with new people [on] what their idea is to
take that kind of wild experience to the next level."
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Bloody-Disgusting.com's SuperHeidi interviewed Sam
& Rob in March 2, 2005, back when they were promoting their new
film; Boogeyman. Sam was asked about the remake, and but first about the prospect of actor Sean Scott Williams playing the role of Ash;
"Who is that? I don't think I've ever
heard of him. There will be an Evil Dead 4, and there will ALSO be an
Evil Dead Remake. The remake will be produced by Ghost House pictures,
and it will star a new cast and a completely new director. The point of
Ghost House is that we want to bring new directors to Hollywood and give
them a chance to make a good horror film. I love the original Dawn of
the Dead, and I also really enjoyed the new Dawn of the Dead. I mean,
they are both really great horror films. I want to let somebody with a
fresh vision bring The Evil Dead to a new generation and a new audience
with a different vision. [Evil Dead 4] is the project I really want to
make. The remake can belong to someone else, but part 4 will be a
continuation of the original."
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Later in August 2007, Bruce revealed in a radio
interview that the proposed remake was going nowhere, due to extremely
negative fan reactions, but more recently, Sam gave fans an update on
the idea, although sounded a little vague on the precise details when
interviewed by Chris Tilly for IGN at the South by Southwest (SXSW) Film
Festival premiere of Drag Me To Hell on March 15, 2009;
"I have talked with my partners [of
Ghost House Pictures] about having a young director come in and remake
Evil Dead, that film was made in 16mm on a shoestring budget and blown
up to 35mm. The visual effects are crumby, it was done in mono, not even
stereo, let alone 5.1. What you could do with it now would be so much
better."
"I think if you had a new director using
the full power of 35mm and 5.1 sound, you could really make a pretty
socko presentation. It was always meant for the big screen, but never
really seen on the big screen"
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As late as December 2, 2009 in an article in The
West Australian (a Perth centred daily newspaper), Rob was asked if they
still have a remake in their sights, and who might direct it;
"Yes, we do. How easy was that? I just
said yes. Sam always said it would be a great thing for somebody to
remake because no one has seen it theatrically on a big screen. It is a
great chance for a young filmmaker to do his thing and bring better
effects and better acting to the story. Hopefully, we are wholeheartedly
committing to getting that done in 2010. We are looking for a filmmaker
to work with to redevelop the story. We don't want to do what I call
cling block - cling to old things or block new ideas."
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A polished slick 'hand held' MTV style remake with
flashy visuals may perform well at the box office but would be very
unlikely to carry favour with hardened fans of the original, and might
not garner anything like it's devoted fan base or longevity. As any
shot-for-shot remake would undoubtedly be held up in direct comparison
with the original, making the task an impossibly tall order, Sam would
likely have to do something radically different if it was ever to emerge
from it's predecessors huge shadow.
Freddy vs Jason vs Ash
For a time, a Freddy vs Jason vs Ash movie was rumoured as a sequel to the Freddy vs Jason
which was released in 2003. Sam & Rob did indeed look at the idea
but in the end decided against it. The rights to each franchise are
owned by a different studio (Freddy Kruger by New Line Cinema, Jason
Voorhees by Paramount Pictures, and Ash by Renaissance Pictures) and Sam
felt this would lead to an impossible working relationship with each
studio vying for their character to come out top in the storyline.
The above problem did not stop Dynamite
Entertainment & DC Comics from getting the rights to publish two
sets of comic books based around the characters, with a six-issue series
entitled Freddy vs Jason vs Ash released over November 2007 to March 2008, the story of which starts directly after the events in the Freddy vs Jason
movie, and ends with Ash coming out on top, using the Book of the Dead
to open a portal, banishing Freddy to the Deadite world, while Jason and
the Book are frozen underneath Crystal Lake. Another six-issue follow
up called Freddy vs Jason vs Ash: The Nightmare Warriors was
released from August to January 2010. Both sets of comic books were
written by Jeff Katz & James Kuhoric and illustrated by Jason Craig.
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Official explanations on the situation are few and
far between, but Sam was asked about it while speaking to Jeff Otto of
IGN Filmforce back in October 11, 2004;
"IGN FILMFORCE: The Freddy Vs. Jason Vs. Ash rumors keep circulating. What are your thoughts on that project?
RAIMI: Well, I actually really like
those, the Freddy movies, and Jason is a classic American horror figure
now. I have a lot of respect for those series, and maybe one day they
will meet up, but right now what I'd like to do is, well I'd first
rather make another Evil Dead picture, and then maybe when we're done
with it, if there's an interesting story that really seems like it's not
just a device to make money, which I'm not saying it was. I know that
they wanted to do something really cool, but I wanted to keep the option
open for myself to make another Evil Dead movie without the limitations
of what that story may have done. That's really, I think, what it is.
IGNFF: So you do hold complete control over the rights to the Ash character?
RAIMI: Yes.
IGNFF: So there's no way they can make that movie without your consent?
RAIMI: Right. I think that they were
hoping that it might go. We talked about it, but then the press release
came out and I think I would need more control than they would be happy
with and I don't want to control some other director. Sean Cunningham's a
brilliant director and I actually don't want to be in a position where
I'm trying to protect Ash and the Evil Dead story and he's not getting
everything he wants. Even though it might have been really great, I bet
what he does is gonna be great, it didn't seem like a good position for
me to be in. Anyways, they've got so many great possibilities with that
franchise and those two characters, I don't think they really need the
Evil Dead franchise to be part of it."
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Bruce elaborated on their position further (and
somewhat less diplomatically) during an interview with Chris Tilly of
IGN on February 6, 2009, while he was promoting My Name Is Bruce;
"We actually had that five minute
conversation with New Line cinema. And it went kind of like this:
'Hey, how about Ash vs. Jason vs. Freddy?'
We went 'Great idea - Ash can kill them both, right?'
And they went 'Well, actually you can't kill either one of them.'
And it was 'click'. That's how long the
phone call went for. Because why on earth would you dilute a franchise
with two other franchises? It made no business sense, because you're
splitting that pie way too many ways. If it's New Line cinema, Freddy's
their baby - you know it's going to get special treatment. And why else
would Ash be in it unless he could kill both of those jerks?"
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It looks safe to say that while this may be a neat idea in principal, the poor execution of Freddy vs Jason left alot to be desired, and there is little reason to think Freddy vs Jason vs Ash
would be any improvement. Given the high esteem in which the fans hold
the Evil Dead trilogy, the fact that the film is very unlikely to come
to fruition may not be such a bad thing.
Sam's recent film; Drag Me To Hell, was a
partial glimpse of the sort of Evil Dead film he is capable of, given
the solid backing and artistic freedom to create a movie exactly as he
envisions it, qualities he can now command given his excellent track
record, but which were somewhat lacking from previous Evil Dead
productions, making an exciting prospect.
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Which ever Evil Dead path Sam decides to
take, pleasing the die hard fans will be far from an easy task and no
matter what the quality of the result, it would be extremely unlikely to
please everyone. The earliest production on any of the above ideas
would be likely to start is after the completion of Spider-Man 4,
due to be released on May 5, 2011. Until then, fans will have to live
in hope, much as they have done over the past two decades, keeping an
eye out for the latest quotes and little off-the-cuff remarks, from
those in the know.
Given the recent slew of poor quality
horror remakes & sequels which many fans feel tarnish their
preciously revered originals, it may be worth adding; 'be careful what
you wish for...'
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